I will not be signing the final CC2009 Document.
---KP
Saturday, November 21, 2009
Friday, November 20, 2009
AoA: Work
We broke up into committees to tackle the document. I was in a sub-sub-committee on civic actions, and our groups work is in the to-be-voted on version, in fact it's most of it. They are all non-violent, and we hope people can join us with this.
We'll take do every peaceful thing to restore the Republic, until we can't.
--- KP
We'll take do every peaceful thing to restore the Republic, until we can't.
--- KP
Thursday, November 19, 2009
Day 9: Articles of Association
This is day on of three for Deliberation, drafting, debating, passing, and finally signing of the Articles of Association; which are the enforcement clauses of what we have done here.
We are calling on the people to enforce Constitutional Rule on our servant government.
Some Delegates think that this document should be the Cliff's Notes version of the past 10 days. I think that is a mistake. My personal thoughts on the issue is that they should be short and sweet, no more than 2 pages, probably. They can be a new Declaration of Independence, and they can be the document that when the people take to the streets to take back their liberty, they can hold this document up as the inspiration for their being there.
We shall see....
--- Change of Schedule
--- ***Editorial. This body just voted down support of native people's property rights in the US. I voted for it, for the record.
--- The body just voted down having a report read on property, and although I support the parts I've heard, if it isn't read to us, and I can't read it (the printers are down), I can't vote for it.
---
---KP
We are calling on the people to enforce Constitutional Rule on our servant government.
Some Delegates think that this document should be the Cliff's Notes version of the past 10 days. I think that is a mistake. My personal thoughts on the issue is that they should be short and sweet, no more than 2 pages, probably. They can be a new Declaration of Independence, and they can be the document that when the people take to the streets to take back their liberty, they can hold this document up as the inspiration for their being there.
We shall see....
--- Change of Schedule
--- ***Editorial. This body just voted down support of native people's property rights in the US. I voted for it, for the record.
--- The body just voted down having a report read on property, and although I support the parts I've heard, if it isn't read to us, and I can't read it (the printers are down), I can't vote for it.
---
---KP
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Day 8: Jury Nulification, Grand Juries, and Health Careq
*** Editorial: After meeting for three and a half hours last night, and one hour this morning, the Sub-Committee on Sovereignty will be making our report. I now understand why B. Franklin said he would never again write for the public after the Articles of Confederation.
- Call to Order: [09:26]
- Question for the Speaker on Grand Juries, etc.
- Credentials Report:
---- 47 States Represented
- Report from the Sub-Committee on Foreign Policy and the General Welfare Clause
---- Reading of the First Section of the Report
---- Debate
---- Motion to Commit to Committee, and to compile, revise, and add
------- Seconded.
------- Debate on the Motion to Commit
------- Call to Question:
----------- WV-N, (4 Yeas/ 35 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails, debate continues
---- Debate Continues [10:33]
---- Motion to Amend (strike out and add, clarification)
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Friendly Amendment (clarification)
---------- Seconded
---------- Call to Question
------------- WV-Y
------------- Motion Carries
------- Vote on Motion as Amended
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries.
---- Debate Continues...
---- Call to Question [10:48]
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries, debate is closed.
---- Vote on first section
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries
---- Reading of the Second Section
---- Amendment: to remunerate payees of Medicare, Social Sec, etc.
*** Editorial: Where does that money come from?!?
---- Call to Question
------- WV-Y
------- Debate is closed.
------- Vote on the Amendment
------- WV-N, (23 Yeas/ 12 Nays)
------- Motion Carries
---- Debate Continues...
---- Vote- Motion Carries.
*** Editorial: Why do we accept the same band-aid fixes the gov't uses? When do cut out losses? I voted for this report, because Congress won't follow through anyway, and the good parts outweigh my o9bjections.
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty Report [11:29]
---- Reading of the Report
---- Motion to Remove two paragraphs.
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Call to Question
------- WV-N, Motion Carries, Debate is closed
------- Vote on Motion to Delete
------------ WV-N, Motion FAILS ***Thank God*** The Two Paragraphs remain.
---- Debate Continues
---- Motion of Privilege to allow the President to reconvene the body if necessary.
------- WV-Y (43 Yeas/ 0 Nays): Unanimous.
------- Motion Carries
---- Motion to Amend by Insertion
-------Summery: Support for a House Bill
------- Seconded
------- Debate
-------
*** Sorry, I got sick during lunch, and needed to go back to my room. I'll try to head back down later, and let you know what's what.
- [15:08] I returned to the floor, feeling somewhat better.
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's 2nd Section postponed until next meeting of the CC (?)
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's 3rd Section (Vieira Document)
---- Move to accept without debate
-------- Seconded.
-------- WV-Y, Motion Passes
- Sub-Committee Report on Constitutional Governance
---- Summery: Federal Committee to review all laws as they are passed for Constitutionality
---- Vote
--------- WV-Y (35 yeas/ 4 Nays)
--------- Motion Carries, report is accepted.
- Sub-Committee on the War Powers Clause
---- Motion to Amend by addition
--------- Add a line requesting Citizens refuse to comply with a Draft.
--------- Seconded
--------- Debate
--------- Call to Question
------------ Seconded
------------ WV-Y, Motion Carries.
--------- WV-Y, (16 Yeas/ 25 Nays)
--------- Motion Fails.
---- Motion to Call for a Roll Call Vote on the Report.
-------- Seconded
-------- Debate
-------- Call to Question:
------------ Seconded
------------ WV-Y ***The people always have a right to know how we're voting, that's why I'm doing this blog.
------------ Motion fails, no roll-call
-------- Final Vote
------------ WV-Y
------------ (39Yeas/ 2 Nays)
------------ Motion Carries, report adopted.
- Committee on the NWO
---- WV-N, Motion fails *** which is great. this was a flier, and was not fit for this body. it picked on minority religions, and was not a good document.
- Sub-Committee on the Public Debt's Report
---- Seconded
---- Debate
*** Recess for Dinner [18:45]
*** Reconvened
-[20:15] Call to Order
---- Debate on Appeal of President's Ruling....
------- Call to Question
---------- WV-A
---------- Motion carries, Debate is closed
------- Final Vote
---------- WV-A
---------- Motion (29 Yeas/ 6 Nays)
---------- Motion Carries, Chair's Ruling is sustained.
---------- 17th Amendment Clause is stricken from the report.
*** Battery is low. Break in recording.
....
- Call to Order: [09:26]
- Question for the Speaker on Grand Juries, etc.
- Credentials Report:
---- 47 States Represented
- Report from the Sub-Committee on Foreign Policy and the General Welfare Clause
---- Reading of the First Section of the Report
---- Debate
---- Motion to Commit to Committee, and to compile, revise, and add
------- Seconded.
------- Debate on the Motion to Commit
------- Call to Question:
----------- WV-N, (4 Yeas/ 35 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails, debate continues
---- Debate Continues [10:33]
---- Motion to Amend (strike out and add, clarification)
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Friendly Amendment (clarification)
---------- Seconded
---------- Call to Question
------------- WV-Y
------------- Motion Carries
------- Vote on Motion as Amended
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries.
---- Debate Continues...
---- Call to Question [10:48]
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries, debate is closed.
---- Vote on first section
------- WV-Y
------- Motion Carries
---- Reading of the Second Section
---- Amendment: to remunerate payees of Medicare, Social Sec, etc.
*** Editorial: Where does that money come from?!?
---- Call to Question
------- WV-Y
------- Debate is closed.
------- Vote on the Amendment
------- WV-N, (23 Yeas/ 12 Nays)
------- Motion Carries
---- Debate Continues...
---- Vote- Motion Carries.
*** Editorial: Why do we accept the same band-aid fixes the gov't uses? When do cut out losses? I voted for this report, because Congress won't follow through anyway, and the good parts outweigh my o9bjections.
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty Report [11:29]
---- Reading of the Report
---- Motion to Remove two paragraphs.
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Call to Question
------- WV-N, Motion Carries, Debate is closed
------- Vote on Motion to Delete
------------ WV-N, Motion FAILS ***Thank God*** The Two Paragraphs remain.
---- Debate Continues
---- Motion of Privilege to allow the President to reconvene the body if necessary.
------- WV-Y (43 Yeas/ 0 Nays): Unanimous.
------- Motion Carries
---- Motion to Amend by Insertion
-------Summery: Support for a House Bill
------- Seconded
------- Debate
-------
*** Sorry, I got sick during lunch, and needed to go back to my room. I'll try to head back down later, and let you know what's what.
- [15:08] I returned to the floor, feeling somewhat better.
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's 2nd Section postponed until next meeting of the CC (?)
- Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's 3rd Section (Vieira Document)
---- Move to accept without debate
-------- Seconded.
-------- WV-Y, Motion Passes
- Sub-Committee Report on Constitutional Governance
---- Summery: Federal Committee to review all laws as they are passed for Constitutionality
---- Vote
--------- WV-Y (35 yeas/ 4 Nays)
--------- Motion Carries, report is accepted.
- Sub-Committee on the War Powers Clause
---- Motion to Amend by addition
--------- Add a line requesting Citizens refuse to comply with a Draft.
--------- Seconded
--------- Debate
--------- Call to Question
------------ Seconded
------------ WV-Y, Motion Carries.
--------- WV-Y, (16 Yeas/ 25 Nays)
--------- Motion Fails.
---- Motion to Call for a Roll Call Vote on the Report.
-------- Seconded
-------- Debate
-------- Call to Question:
------------ Seconded
------------ WV-Y ***The people always have a right to know how we're voting, that's why I'm doing this blog.
------------ Motion fails, no roll-call
-------- Final Vote
------------ WV-Y
------------ (39Yeas/ 2 Nays)
------------ Motion Carries, report adopted.
- Committee on the NWO
---- WV-N, Motion fails *** which is great. this was a flier, and was not fit for this body. it picked on minority religions, and was not a good document.
- Sub-Committee on the Public Debt's Report
---- Seconded
---- Debate
*** Recess for Dinner [18:45]
*** Reconvened
-[20:15] Call to Order
---- Debate on Appeal of President's Ruling....
------- Call to Question
---------- WV-A
---------- Motion carries, Debate is closed
------- Final Vote
---------- WV-A
---------- Motion (29 Yeas/ 6 Nays)
---------- Motion Carries, Chair's Ruling is sustained.
---------- 17th Amendment Clause is stricken from the report.
*** Battery is low. Break in recording.
....
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Day 7: Sovereignty and Property
- [09:27] Call to Order
- Open Discussion on Sovereignty
---- Until 10:00
*** Editorial: Right now I'm working on getting our Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's report together to get it to the Body. So updates may be sparse. Fair warning.
- [10:12] Sub-Committee Report on the Accountability Clause (1st Amend)
---- Facts, Instructions to Congress, Instructions to the States, and Recommendation to the People
---- Seconded
---- Debate
---- Motion to Amend
------- To wait and do nothing, until we collect 15 million signatures
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Call to Question : WV-Y,( 37 Yeas/3 Nays). Debate is Closed
------- Vote on Motion to Amend
------- WV-N,
------- Motion Fails
---- [10:27] Debate on the Report
---- [10:46] Call to Question: WV-Y, (28 Yeas/ 13 Nays), Debate is Closed
---- Motion to Divide
---- 3 min. Recess to read the Report
---- Final Vote to Accept Report by Section
------- Federal Section
----------- WV- Y (47 Yeas/ 14 Nays). Motion Carries
------- States Section
----------- WV-Y (31 Yeas/ 10 Nays). Motion Carries [11:09]
------- Civic Action Section
----------- WV-Y (31 Yeas/ 10 Nays). Motion Carries [11:12]
- Report from the Sub-Committee on Sovereignty
---- Seconded
---- Debate
---- Substitute Motion
------- Seconded
------- Debate
---- Committed to Committee [11:45]
- Recess for Lunch and Presentations [11:50]
*** Recess***
- Call to Order [15:20]
- Committee Report on Non-Authority
---- Debate.
---- Call to Question [15:47] to end debate
------- WV- Y (27 Yeas/ 16 Nays)
------- Debate Continues
---- Motion to Divide
-------- WV-Y (30 Yeas / 8 Nays). Motion carries
------- *** We have two documents here, and we want to vote on them separately. Jon Roland want this Body to adopt his legal determinations as to 27 definitions for the US Federal Constitution. Which I feel is patently ridiculous.
---- Debate Continues... [16:00]
---- Move to Amend
------- Strike sentence concerning personal consequences
------- Call to Question to terminate Debate on the strikeout
------- WV-Y (40Yeas/ 0 Nays). Motion carries, debate is closed
------- Final Vote to strike
----------- WV-N, (07 Yeas/ 33 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails.
---- Motion to Amend [16:14]
------- Strike the word 'loyal' from the second intro paragraph
------- Seconded.
------- Call to Question on closing Debate
----------- WV-Y (40Yeas/ 0 Nays)
------- Final Vote to Strike
----------- WV-Y (33 Yeas/04 Nays)
----------- Motion Carries, word 'loyal' is struck
---- [16:19] Debate continues....
---- [16:31] Call to Question to terminate Debate
------- WV-Y (35 Yeas/07 Nays). Debate is closed.
---- Final Vote on Declaration of Nonauthority
------- WV-Y (14 Yeas/ 29 Nays) [16:36]
------- Motion fails.
---- On the "Constitutional Clarifications"
------- Summery: Jon Roland's determination on the meaning of words
------- Call to Question to terminate debate.
----------- WV-Y (36 Yeas/ 06 Nays). Motion Carries, debate is closed.
----------- Final Vote on "Constitutional Clarifications"
----------- WV-N (08 Yeas/ 32 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails.
- [16:46] Report from the Sub-Committee on 16th Amendment and Taxes
---- Reading of the Report
---- Debate.
---- Call to Question to terminate debate [17:15]
-------- Seconded.
-------- WV-Y (43 Yeas/ 2 Nays). Debate is Closed.
---- Vote on the Motion
------- WV-Y (40 Yeas/ 4 Nays)
------- Motion Carries. Report is accepted.
....
- Open Discussion on Sovereignty
---- Until 10:00
*** Editorial: Right now I'm working on getting our Sub-Committee on Sovereignty's report together to get it to the Body. So updates may be sparse. Fair warning.
- [10:12] Sub-Committee Report on the Accountability Clause (1st Amend)
---- Facts, Instructions to Congress, Instructions to the States, and Recommendation to the People
---- Seconded
---- Debate
---- Motion to Amend
------- To wait and do nothing, until we collect 15 million signatures
------- Seconded
------- Debate
------- Call to Question : WV-Y,( 37 Yeas/3 Nays). Debate is Closed
------- Vote on Motion to Amend
------- WV-N,
------- Motion Fails
---- [10:27] Debate on the Report
---- [10:46] Call to Question: WV-Y, (28 Yeas/ 13 Nays), Debate is Closed
---- Motion to Divide
---- 3 min. Recess to read the Report
---- Final Vote to Accept Report by Section
------- Federal Section
----------- WV- Y (47 Yeas/ 14 Nays). Motion Carries
------- States Section
----------- WV-Y (31 Yeas/ 10 Nays). Motion Carries [11:09]
------- Civic Action Section
----------- WV-Y (31 Yeas/ 10 Nays). Motion Carries [11:12]
- Report from the Sub-Committee on Sovereignty
---- Seconded
---- Debate
---- Substitute Motion
------- Seconded
------- Debate
---- Committed to Committee [11:45]
- Recess for Lunch and Presentations [11:50]
*** Recess***
- Call to Order [15:20]
- Committee Report on Non-Authority
---- Debate.
---- Call to Question [15:47] to end debate
------- WV- Y (27 Yeas/ 16 Nays)
------- Debate Continues
---- Motion to Divide
-------- WV-Y (30 Yeas / 8 Nays). Motion carries
------- *** We have two documents here, and we want to vote on them separately. Jon Roland want this Body to adopt his legal determinations as to 27 definitions for the US Federal Constitution. Which I feel is patently ridiculous.
---- Debate Continues... [16:00]
---- Move to Amend
------- Strike sentence concerning personal consequences
------- Call to Question to terminate Debate on the strikeout
------- WV-Y (40Yeas/ 0 Nays). Motion carries, debate is closed
------- Final Vote to strike
----------- WV-N, (07 Yeas/ 33 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails.
---- Motion to Amend [16:14]
------- Strike the word 'loyal' from the second intro paragraph
------- Seconded.
------- Call to Question on closing Debate
----------- WV-Y (40Yeas/ 0 Nays)
------- Final Vote to Strike
----------- WV-Y (33 Yeas/04 Nays)
----------- Motion Carries, word 'loyal' is struck
---- [16:19] Debate continues....
---- [16:31] Call to Question to terminate Debate
------- WV-Y (35 Yeas/07 Nays). Debate is closed.
---- Final Vote on Declaration of Nonauthority
------- WV-Y (14 Yeas/ 29 Nays) [16:36]
------- Motion fails.
---- On the "Constitutional Clarifications"
------- Summery: Jon Roland's determination on the meaning of words
------- Call to Question to terminate debate.
----------- WV-Y (36 Yeas/ 06 Nays). Motion Carries, debate is closed.
----------- Final Vote on "Constitutional Clarifications"
----------- WV-N (08 Yeas/ 32 Nays)
----------- Motion Fails.
- [16:46] Report from the Sub-Committee on 16th Amendment and Taxes
---- Reading of the Report
---- Debate.
---- Call to Question to terminate debate [17:15]
-------- Seconded.
-------- WV-Y (43 Yeas/ 2 Nays). Debate is Closed.
---- Vote on the Motion
------- WV-Y (40 Yeas/ 4 Nays)
------- Motion Carries. Report is accepted.
....
Monday, November 16, 2009
Day 6: Immigration and Foreign Policy
Note: I was late to the session, I got a message this morning from one of my constituents asking me to bring a certain idea forth here at CC2009. I decided that I would be late to the session to give me time to write a Resolution that effect. I'll put that Resolution in the Comments section for you to look at. As of now, it has not made it into a Committee to be brought to the floor, but if it doesn't I will bring it forward Thursday.
------
- [10:05] Open Debate Period
- [11:00] Old Business, 2A Sub-Committee Report Amendments
---- Credentials Report: 47 States represented
------- Seconded.
------- No Debate
------- Vote: WV- Y, Motions Carries
---- Summery: Inserting a section on Open and Concealed Carry
---- Debate on the Amendment to the Civic Action section on the 2A Committee Report
---- President Ends Debate by Executive Prerogative
---- Vote on Amendment:
------- WV- Y (26 Yeas/14 Nays),
------- Motion Carries
*** Editorial: We Did it!
---- Vote on Acceptance of the Committee Report as Amended
------- WV-Y, (39 Yeas/ 2Nays),
------- Motion Carries! [11:40]
*** Editorial: Finally! This was a lot of hard work, this is something to be proud of.
- Motion to Reconsider the Instructions to the several States
---- Seconded.
---- No Debate
---- Vote to Reconsider:
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries
---- Debate on the reconsideration and additions to Instructions
---- Call to Question
-------- Vote to End to Debate (WV-Y, Carries)
---- Vote to include Revision
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries to include provisions on State Constitutional Restricts on 2A
---- Vote to Accept the Instructions
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries [11:57]
- Report from the Sub-Committee on The Accountability Clause
---- Back-Patting
---- Summery of Document
---- Seconded
---- Motion to Divide (break it into chunks and vote on each piece)
------- WV-A
------- Motion Carries [12:07]
*** Recess for Lunch and Presentations
- [15:02] Call to Order
- Announcement from Sub-Committee on Citizenship
---- Meeting at 1515-1600h, and 1700-1900h.
---- On Article II Eligibility
---- Currently have 4 working documents
- Open Discussion
- Announcement of Committee Meetings
- Formation of Sub-Committees
- [1830]
*** Editorial: I just got out of the Sub-Committee on Sovereignty. I wrote a document called the Declaration of Sovereignty, and the Committee voted to adopt is as their official report. We'll introduce it on the floor, and it will probably get sent back to the Committee. It doesn't mince words, and it's a little bit feisty. But we think it's very good. More to come later.
Good Night,
---KP
....
------
- [10:05] Open Debate Period
- [11:00] Old Business, 2A Sub-Committee Report Amendments
---- Credentials Report: 47 States represented
------- Seconded.
------- No Debate
------- Vote: WV- Y, Motions Carries
---- Summery: Inserting a section on Open and Concealed Carry
---- Debate on the Amendment to the Civic Action section on the 2A Committee Report
---- President Ends Debate by Executive Prerogative
---- Vote on Amendment:
------- WV- Y (26 Yeas/14 Nays),
------- Motion Carries
*** Editorial: We Did it!
---- Vote on Acceptance of the Committee Report as Amended
------- WV-Y, (39 Yeas/ 2Nays),
------- Motion Carries! [11:40]
*** Editorial: Finally! This was a lot of hard work, this is something to be proud of.
- Motion to Reconsider the Instructions to the several States
---- Seconded.
---- No Debate
---- Vote to Reconsider:
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries
---- Debate on the reconsideration and additions to Instructions
---- Call to Question
-------- Vote to End to Debate (WV-Y, Carries)
---- Vote to include Revision
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries to include provisions on State Constitutional Restricts on 2A
---- Vote to Accept the Instructions
------- WV- Y
------- Motion Carries [11:57]
- Report from the Sub-Committee on The Accountability Clause
---- Back-Patting
---- Summery of Document
---- Seconded
---- Motion to Divide (break it into chunks and vote on each piece)
------- WV-A
------- Motion Carries [12:07]
*** Recess for Lunch and Presentations
- [15:02] Call to Order
- Announcement from Sub-Committee on Citizenship
---- Meeting at 1515-1600h, and 1700-1900h.
---- On Article II Eligibility
---- Currently have 4 working documents
- Open Discussion
- Announcement of Committee Meetings
- Formation of Sub-Committees
- [1830]
*** Editorial: I just got out of the Sub-Committee on Sovereignty. I wrote a document called the Declaration of Sovereignty, and the Committee voted to adopt is as their official report. We'll introduce it on the floor, and it will probably get sent back to the Committee. It doesn't mince words, and it's a little bit feisty. But we think it's very good. More to come later.
Good Night,
---KP
....
Sunday, November 15, 2009
Day 5: Sunday, War Clause and Privacy Clause
- [09:45] Call to Order
- Orders of the Day: Open discussion on the War Clause of the USC.
- Debate.
- [10:50] Report from the Credentials Committee
---- 113 Delegates, with 48 States represented
---- Move to be subject to later amendment and approval
---- Seconded.
---- WV: Aye, voice vote. Motion carries.
- Motion to adopt Ron and Jeremy as Co-Secretaries
---- Seconded.
---- WV: Aye, voice vote. Motion carries.
- [10:52] Report from the Second Amendment Committee
---- Files are available to Delegates
---- Reading of the Committee Report
*** Editorial comment: Wow, this is finally some real progress!!! I will post them in the comments section, before any amendments. The Caucus is seeking one. [11:16]
---- Debate on the Report
---- Amend to strike, add, and revise.
------- Seconded.
------- Debate.
------- Motion to Divide the Question (vote one each little bit)
------------- Seconded.
------------- Debate
------------- Call to Question (WV: Y, motion carries)
------- Debate on the Motion to Strike and revise... (Strike: Well-trained, loyal, Delete: homeland, replace with domestic. Add definition of domestic as "American soil")
------- Referred to Committee:
***Editorial- I met with the 2nd Amendment Committee and we altered the document. We got called back to presentations, and we'll meet again at 1700h.
-[13:45] Presentations on Privacy and Skype Call from Speaker
- [15:21] Call to Order
- Debate on Privacy
- Report from the Second Amendment Committee
---- Credentials Report: 47 States present
---- Reading of the amended Resolutions
---- Call to Question
------- Seconded.
------- Voice Vote: WV: Aye, Motion carries. Debate is closed
---- Vote on the Federal Section as amended:
------- Voice Vote: WV- Aye, Motion Carries
---- Vote on the State Section
------- Voice Vote: WV- Aye, Motion carries
---- Vote on the Civic Action Piece
------ Voice Vote: WV -Nay (we wanted to make an amendment), Motion Carries.
- [16:11] Open Debate on Privacy continues
- Reconsider the Civic Action with Amendment
---- WV Y, failed.
---- New Amendment for Open Carry, postponed until tomorrow.
- Recess for the night.
- Committee Work until 7pm, Dinner at 7, Committee work until the wee hours (2 am some days).
Our Caucus is really starting to make a difference here. We're working really hard, and going to have some very good Resolutions and suggestions for the People when we're done.
---KP
.....
- Orders of the Day: Open discussion on the War Clause of the USC.
- Debate.
- [10:50] Report from the Credentials Committee
---- 113 Delegates, with 48 States represented
---- Move to be subject to later amendment and approval
---- Seconded.
---- WV: Aye, voice vote. Motion carries.
- Motion to adopt Ron and Jeremy as Co-Secretaries
---- Seconded.
---- WV: Aye, voice vote. Motion carries.
- [10:52] Report from the Second Amendment Committee
---- Files are available to Delegates
---- Reading of the Committee Report
*** Editorial comment: Wow, this is finally some real progress!!! I will post them in the comments section, before any amendments. The Caucus is seeking one. [11:16]
---- Debate on the Report
---- Amend to strike, add, and revise.
------- Seconded.
------- Debate.
------- Motion to Divide the Question (vote one each little bit)
------------- Seconded.
------------- Debate
------------- Call to Question (WV: Y, motion carries)
------- Debate on the Motion to Strike and revise... (Strike: Well-trained, loyal, Delete: homeland, replace with domestic. Add definition of domestic as "American soil")
------- Referred to Committee:
***Editorial- I met with the 2nd Amendment Committee and we altered the document. We got called back to presentations, and we'll meet again at 1700h.
-[13:45] Presentations on Privacy and Skype Call from Speaker
- [15:21] Call to Order
- Debate on Privacy
- Report from the Second Amendment Committee
---- Credentials Report: 47 States present
---- Reading of the amended Resolutions
---- Call to Question
------- Seconded.
------- Voice Vote: WV: Aye, Motion carries. Debate is closed
---- Vote on the Federal Section as amended:
------- Voice Vote: WV- Aye, Motion Carries
---- Vote on the State Section
------- Voice Vote: WV- Aye, Motion carries
---- Vote on the Civic Action Piece
------ Voice Vote: WV -Nay (we wanted to make an amendment), Motion Carries.
- [16:11] Open Debate on Privacy continues
- Reconsider the Civic Action with Amendment
---- WV Y, failed.
---- New Amendment for Open Carry, postponed until tomorrow.
- Recess for the night.
- Committee Work until 7pm, Dinner at 7, Committee work until the wee hours (2 am some days).
Our Caucus is really starting to make a difference here. We're working really hard, and going to have some very good Resolutions and suggestions for the People when we're done.
---KP
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